Parenting - art or science, practice or theory??

I've had an interesting weekend.
A number of things have coincided and lead to this post.

I have a FaceBook friend with views and outlooks very different to my own. I often don't agree with the outlooks she has but do try to find the time to read her links and ponder on the other perspective. Our parenting experiences are very different and I think that's largely part of the difference. But no one knows what they'd do if their lives were different - until they are.

I also have a sister and sister-in-law pregnant for the first time and had an interesting discussion with my sister-in-law on the weekend about some of her plans for when her babies are born (she's expecting twins).

There was also an interesting article I read recently about the competitive nature of parenting.

I think that, because the boys are older, some of my thoughts and approaches to do with newborns are perhaps a little more jaundiced, battle weary, and covered by the haze of time and fatigue! But I also like to think that they have also been forced into practicality by experience.

But as I say I try to ponder the other views when I can - perhaps in the dreaded jargon of my teacher training - being a reflective parent.

There is a lot said about theories, ideals, shoulds and should nots - a lot of which are rooted in philosophy, medical science, society, comparing and judging or not judging other parents for their choices. And then there's a lot said about the reaction to those differences, people's sensitivity to criticism or judgement - perceived or real.

How many of us plan to be a certain type of parent? When that test comes out positive how many of us reach for the guide books and decide this is the kind of parent I'm going to be, this is how my children are going to be, sleep, feed, play?

I know, in my case I didn't think so much about a theory of parenting as daydream about what my child might grow up to be, what they might look like. Later the practicalities of getting things ready became higher up the list.

I did make plans on the use of dummies, cloth or disposable nappies, did have brief conversations with P about where the baby would sleep but at least some of those plans were made on past history - this is what we expected and so why vary it.

What happens to those plans when life has other plans? Is parenting an art or a science? Does it follow a theory or is it a more fluid practice? How do you cope if your plans are thrown out the window by actual situation and how do you then re-model yourself as a parent with your current situation.

I do wonder whether some of the increasing incidence of Postnatal Depression can be due to this tendency to plan, to think out an approach to parenting before you even have the baby, to have an underpinning philosophy that you will not vary because to do so in any way will betray your carefully researched principles.

Just in the way mothers who have a hard and fast birth plan which they are adamant they will not be deviating from and then all hell breaks loose, you wind up with the complete opposite and then the mother is devastated, feels cheated and betrayed - possibly by the doctors, by the baby even but largely by their own body, that they "couldn't even do this right", those who have a hard and fast theory of how they are going to parent have come up with this minus the most important factor - the other partner in the relationship - the child.

There are so many contentious issues in parenting and even those who are not parents will hold a view and opinion - from the way you give birth, to how you feed, sleep, nappy a baby, respond to their needs.

When these things are discussed it can become very heated and result in people being very upset.

There is definitely the competitive edge to some of these theories of parenting - who does the most with their kids, who holds them the most, is most responsive (always a matter that is only in the eye of the beholder in every case other than the obviously abusive), whose kids are the most advanced and is this because they were nurtured in a particular way, feed in a particular way, slept in a particular way - obviously if my kids are bigger, brighter, stronger, faster then I'm the better parent. That's the competitive approach.

But there is a core, underpinning factor when it comes to discussions of parenting techniques and really WHY people get so heated. People say if you are secure in your choices, your approaches then why get upset? If you are then you can't be secure.
But the thing is - parenting, I think for any parent but particularly for mothers and possibly even more so for stay-at-home mothers - is an intrinsic part of who we are and what we do.

Just as it's a known phenomenon that men, suddenly made redundant have a lot of difficulties because their sense of self, self-worth and where they sit in the world is associated with their occupation and being good at it; so it is with parenting - we pour so much of ourselves into it, it is who we are, what we do and why we do it. We talk about Our Kids, they are our future and of course we love them madly and deeply. How can we not have ourselves fully invested in them? If we don't then does that make us a bad parent?

And in return your child is fully invested in you - to the world you may be one little person but to one little person you are the world!

And so how can parenting discussions not affect you? It's nothing to do with your security in your choices but everything to do with the natural search to be the best parent you can become. It's why I try to read, think, widen my point of view beyond my specific parenting technique, see what perhaps I can tweak, change, adapt, learn from others. But when these things are presented as absolutes, if you don't then you aren't doing the best for your child, you could harm your child if you don't do as I do etc. then that self image, self worth - and the defense mechanism to say of course you are a good parent so I'd better not listen to this - kicks in.

These issues can be as varied as honouring the child's need to cry because they are feeling violated because you are changing their nappy, how you deal with a tantrum or how you feed your infant. I can raise my eyebrows and think to myself 'Nice theory, love to see how long that lasts in practice' when someone tells me of asking their infant's permission to change their nappy and waiting until they get a sense of it being okay with them. When it comes to being told that formula is poison and that you are harming, damaging and poisoning your child by feeding them that, that you can't bond properly if you don't breastfeed or hold your baby as soon as they were born etc then I get upset.

I am upset not because I am insecure in my choices, but because these are more extreme views, views which not not even attempt to consider the vast range of parenting experiences and which, because they do not acknowledge other's realities, devalue others just because they are not the same.

Formula is not poison. You can bond just as well with your infant over a bottle as a breast. And all is not lost if you cannot do skin to skin or even touch your newborn.

For myself I see my parenting as a fluid thing, an art and a practice.

I would not presume to say I've got this parenting thing taped now after 12 years.
I know that every day can throw me another curve ball, another new experience.
I know that every day is the first time I have had to parent a 12 yr and however many days old child.

I was taught the lesson that each child and their needs and their needed parenting is very different very clearly when I had N. Yes, I was more confident in handling a newborn, yes I knew more basics - but N taught me that he was not W and when responded to the same way this wouldn't necessarily fill his needs.

The philosophy of how much you intervene in children's games and fights has been adapted from what I thought and read - my boys, due to their needs need much more hands on intervention to prevent injuries.

The cry-it-out or not situation has been shaped by needs at the time and the state of the child at the time.

Some approaches or 'rules' for lack of a better word that I have developed have been adapted and melded by my parenting experiences. No I never wanted or planned to cause my children pain but we all wind up holding them down against their will for some things at some stage. Through our experiences I've adapted from the help hold them down for immunisations to a point where now - if they can't bring in extra staff such as for a blood test then I'll help but when a procedure or test is going to be upsetting for the child or painful then I'm not getting involved and will only be present for the child's reassurance - Mummy is there for comfort, although in some circumstances the child may feel that bringing them to that point is betrayal enough. If that's the case then I didn't do a good enough job explaining WHY they need to go through this.

I never planned to homeschool but that's where we're at due to circumstances with the children. I also planned to be thinking about a future career, re-training or doing a refresher course and going back to work part time by this point. But we have come to the dawning realisation that our particular children are always going to have higher needs - our current crises may not be what we take forward into the future but there will always be other needs rising up and needing higher levels of parental involvement than other children. I could be kicking against this reality, frustrated with the hand we've been dealt, the fact that we will probably always be struggling, that I may well never have a formalised career or recognised job.
But that doesn't help the kids - my job is raising our children to the best they can be and if our reality needs more than others then so be it.

My parenting, my plans, my approaches are fluid and adaptable. They have to be to adapt to my particular version of reality.
Hard and fast plans usually lead to pain, upset and disappointment. Don't plan it if you can't handle the possibility of it all changing on you.

But also constantly recognise that my reality, my parenting and each individual child of mine is different to the parallel universe of your reality, your parenting and your children.

Different is not bad, it's not failing the child or hurting them and we all need to remember that growing this child to an adult ready to step up and take their place in society is a central, core, emotive and heart strings kind of thing.

You have to invest yourself - and so naturally conflicting viewpoints are going to cut as well. It's not a matter of insecurity, having made true choices and so not feeling guilt or whatever, those are 'excuses' offered by those who struggle to see a reality beyond their own for whatever reason, but that a good parent is one who is one who looks, thinks, ponders options and as a result wonders is what I am doing the best I can and takes things to heart.

Round and Round the Mulberry Bush...

I may have posted under this heading before - I can't remember.
My version of groundhog day consists of waiting for doctors, seeing doctors, going to chemists, organising follow up appointments - oh and the odd bit of research in between!

And so to T news - we saw the surgeon today and he is happy that the wrap is in place, that there is no gross reflux, that the wrap is relaxing to let food through, the stomach has good capacity and that there are no obvious obstructions in the oesophagus.
He has said there is nothing surgical he can offer - if he went in there he wouldn't know what to operate ON!

However - we're all agreed that something is not right. And so T is now on the list for a scope and biopsy. While nothing showed up on the barium as needing dilation he said he may well put a dilator down anyway on the off chance while he's in there.

We are stuck in the public system and all the waiting that entails because, just as the hospital has the only paed radiologist south of Taupo, so the hospital has the only paed pathologist. The surgeon has said by doing the scope in hospital he can take the biopsies down to the lab himself and talk to the pathologist.
The other advantage is that should nothing show on the scope then there are visiting paed gastroenterologists from Auckland who come to Wellington and he can discuss the case with them and all the info is in the one file.

So while I have a severe allergic reaction to Wellington Hospital I have to suck it up and manage it for T's benefit because this is the only way in this stupid country to access the paed specialists to get the best results for T.
And it's all about T.

He has prescribed T omeprazole and mylanta - working on the basis that something's inflamed inside and that's why he's having the problems.
So we3'll give it a whirl and see what happens, even though he has spun me the old old line of omeprazole having no side effects and completely safe for a life time - um...not so...and as I said to him, I've done my reading on this stuff.
But again, we're ticking boxes, ruling things in or out.

Frustratingly he has looked at T and said he thinks he's nicely in proportion and looks like he's holding his own and energy levels are fine. This is the kid who isn't concentrating anywhere near as long as he used to, can't make much headway on his school work, can't play for as long as he used to, is resting much of the time, and has even spent the past 2 Sundays crying in my arms as he's tired and wants to go home - yet, the surgeon who attends the same Mass, has somehow missed this.
I did say that it's taking a lot of work to keep T in this condition and he just smiled. But T's fragility has got to the point where I can't even have a shower without him being in tears - it was literally 10 mins this morning.
The over tired, fragile child wail rises at relentlessly regular intervals in this household.

So I guess we're looking at inflammation caused by SOMETHING as yet unknown - most likely culprit is allergies, or some kind of subtle narrowing which didn't show up on the sheer unmitigated disaster which was his barium 'swallow'.
Allergic oesophagitis or EE can be treated with steroids to deal to the initial inflammation and then a restricted diet there after.

I just want my happy T back, my T who was starting the day wanting to do schoolwork, my T who would punch his brothers instead of just sit and cry if they annoyed him. I want my wonderful eater back. I want the invigorating success and voyage of discovery we were having unpacking the depths of this child who was finally painfree and thriving.

I don't want to be waiting, losing more time, watching him decline and fall further behind again. We've been losing time, waiting for doctors ever since this kid was born. But, yet again, you can't hurry the system.

At least we have a good surgeon and paed behind us this time - even if every fibre of my being is screaming to just get ON WITH IT AND FIX HIM!

The ephemeral nature of internet communities

Bear with me here as I wax philosophical for a moment.
Life can be hard when you are a square peg in a round hole.
Everyone needs to feel a sense of community, to feel connected, even at the risk of sounding corny - to have a place where everyone knows your name.

Everyone has moments, time periods in their lives when they don't fit where they expected to, where they feel isolated, a sense of no community - perhaps even when no one actually understands.

In reality no one CAN understand exactly what someone is going through, even if they have been through the same or a similar experience. No one has the same life experience, baggage, strengths, weaknesses to bring to bear on the situation and so no one handles the same life experiences in the same way.

But total isolation, not fitting anywhere, isn't good for someone. You can become too insular, too closed in on yourself, issues can rapidly appear insurmountable. An imperfect fit is better than no fit. That's where multiple groups can come in.

I'm part of an on-line community for those affected by prematurity, I'm part of an on-line community for parents of children with feeding difficulties, I'm part of the local homeschooling association. We have been part of a local support group for families affected by autistic spectrum disorders. And I'm part of an on-line community brought together by either health needs or parenting interests. This on-line community also has an interesting overlap in that those locally meet up in real life as well.

But all of these groups have pluses and minuses - ways in which you do but don't belong.

The prematurity groups are perennially affected by the 'preemier than thou' syndrome. It's controlled but always there. When you have late prem children then often it is hard to fit in, people feel 'it's not really premature, this is' etc.

The feeding difficulties group is interesting - things are well kept under wraps but there is a demarcation between those with tube fed kids and those who are not. I straddle both camps with N and T - although perhaps not for much longer. There is also the issue that both of these groups are largely US based - medications, interventions available, support, supplies are all very different. You can post frustrated that your child won't drink x formula and how on earth do you flavour the repulsive stuff and discover that the 2 formulas you have to choose from are part of around 6-8 options they have there and flavouring modules are easy to make it palatable - only New Zealand doesn't fund them any more so they simply aren't available. Sympathy is available but suggestions for medications, foods and therapies are not.

So we home school - immediately that makes a gulf between us and others. One of the stock questions any adult asks a child is - what school do you go to? That community of parents is no longer available.
The home school group organises events for home schooled children. But due to T's fatigue levels (needed afternoon naps until nearly 5) our participation was severely limited to almost non-existant. I had hoped that, after getting through the winter, we could take a larger part. However the group has mostly moved to events which carry costs, an afternoon when the boys have swimming - and T is no longer up to doing much at all.

The ASD group was very helpful in coming to grips with W's situation. Anyone who knows me I like to be able to help those I can with what we've learnt along our journey and so that was good too. But, a bit like the prematurity forums - life comes down to tin tacks and how affected your child is. P and I used to come out being intensely grateful that W is as good as he is. But that didn't help with the areas he - and so we - needed support in. Once we started home schooling he improved - and the vast majority of the time at the meetings was taken up with school issues which were now a non-event for us.

As P and I learnt as W's issues became more and more obvious - friends don't know how to cope with a child who clearly has issues, how to cope with worn and embattled parents, parents who have to focus on their child/children and constantly fight for what they need, spend hours researching, booked up with specialist appointments, limited in their socialising ability by their child's needs.

Those friends who do not yet have children often cannot comprehend this world and those who are coming up to having children are often subconsciously afraid, afraid to see what could go wrong, afraid that somehow they could have their chances contaminated by our bad luck. Friends often drift away.

P and I can count on one hand the friends who have stayed around despite the differences, the gulf of tiredness and child obstacles in the way to being there for others - socially as well as emotionally. It is hard to be there emotionally for others when you are constantly juggling intense demands for your own children - and let's face it - if you, as the parent aren't there for them then who is going to be?

And so our 'normal' friends, with 'normal' kids are few and far between. The 'normal parenting world' is behind a curtain somewhere. I can see it in a shadowy form, I get to use aspects of it in my daily life too but it's like a hazy mirror.

On-line groups, especially international ones are good for the embattled 'special needs parent'. There's always someone who can support the person in need so it's not always up to you, you can be there when you get the moment - regardless of the hour.
Some may say that that support isn't real, can't make a difference - but trust me, when it feels like you are the only one in the world to ever face this particular challenge - just having someone say 'Yes, I've heard of this, I've dealt with this or know someone who has', to have an email in your box saying 'Yep, you are right, that really does suck' really does help, give you a lift and make you realise that yes, you can and will keep on keeping on - even if it is two steps forwards, one step back.

My on-line 'normal' parents group was a life line. Because it was mostly on-line it had all the benefits of that and the real life meet ups gave a fairly safe place where aspects of the kids were understood because they were forewarned - but the kids could also just be kids.

So where do I fit? Where do I sit least uneasily? Where will be the fewest blisters and friction burns? Because, let's face it, no one gets on all the time and as email is a very blunt medium misunderstandings, disagreements and eventually fights inevitably break out.

Because you aren't speaking face to face people say things they wouldn't otherwise dream of saying, take implications that could not have been taken if you could see facial expressions, and because they are in written form you can come back to time and time again to be re-hurt, fester, cogitate over.

On-line groups also have the benefit and drawback of being easy to join and leave.

It's surprising how you come to depend on these groups in my situation - how these internet friends become your community, your support, your net.
Just as any parent - or person for that matter - have days when they just need somewhere to say they have had enough, they just want something to go right for once, to blow off some steam - so do I. However because I don't fit anywhere completely, comfortably - and because my options are limited, these groups become more significant. Precisely because you aren't face to face you open more, share more, feel like you are friends more - a bond.

And so when the inevitable happens in an on-line community and people fight, people leave it hurts - perhaps more intensely for those in my situation because it feels like a big door has shut, there's another aspect you are cut off from, just another group which exists that you don't fit into.

Sometimes, in an on-line community you get the major event, the implosion, you get a mass exodus - and you get left with a big sense of nothing left, of grieving although it feels silly to grieve for it. But it's another place you don't fit, you can't belong, where you are too different.

But maybe this is the nature of friendship today? What is friendship and how is it changing in today's world? It can't be unaffected by modern technology - everything else is after all! How many of us have people we barely connect to as friends on Facebook? If it really came to total crunch time how many of your 'friends' would stand up and be counted with and for you? Or how many have crossed your life path for varying lengths of time and moved on again but still we cling to that shell of momentary shared history?

For many people, this ephemeral nature of 'friendship', of community is easily managed, coped with. They have other opportunities and groups available to them. Perhaps when the group does the, all too frequently experienced, implosion, they are able to pick and choose who they maintain contacts with, with whom they can meet up.

For the 'special needs parent', the one with limited options, groups, time and energy this isn't so. The loss is bigger, magnified by the fact that it's not easily replaced.

As I said at the start - everyone needs a community, a place to belong, at the very least a place with the least friction burns.

Specific needs communities have their own drawbacks, internal competitions - and often the parents are embattled enough that they can't support anyone more at particular times as they are already paddling frantically to keep their own emotional boats afloat.

Normal needs communities have the major drawback that often you are speaking another language, you are an alien from another planet, the extent of what you manage on a day to day basis leaves them feeling like they have nothing they ought to complain about - losing them THEIR community and THEIR support base which they need too. You worry that your experiences, needs for support, simple venting are actually too much, too foreign, too needy in a normal world way for their group.

I have found, in my life, that while everyone needs somewhere to belong, when you straddle areas as I do, that it is a reality that groups come and go, your involvement waxes and wanes and that there are regular intervals in your life when it is simply you and your little bubble afloat on the ocean of day to day challenges and that right now you don't have anywhere to belong, nowhere is a fit.
You have to have the resources, strengths and experiences to draw on to keep on going and do it by yourself. And sometimes you have enough challenges on your plate that the loss of an imploding group is a grief and a challenge that stretches you to the max - one that maybe makes you realise the ephemeral nature of the friendships you thought you had, or at least wonder if the current attempts at community are worth it.

So long as you have some kind of fit somewhere, and keep reaching out at times when you do have the reserves - and recognise the fact that for some of us - you will never really, truly fit.

As the sand moves through the hourglass so are the Days of Our Lives

And so - where were we last?
W broke his arm and it healed - easy.
P's grandfather died - not so easy.
T saw the surgeon, GP multiple times and the dietician - not so easy.

GP's monitoring weight - T dropped 1 kg but has very slowly inched back up again but we're still playing around with fortnightly weigh ins.
Dietician decided T was best restricted to purees and soft foods only and to have his night feeds/formula intake increased back up to 1000ml/24 hrs. The vast majority of this is being tubed.
Surgeon decided he wanted a barium swallow done to see what's going on in there.

The barium swallow was a saga of epic proportions and one which was broken into two attempts - the first attempt went like this -
He was all happy and smiles until they laid him on the bed - then the screaming started and continued to the point of retching. Funny really they were all running for bowls etc but the kid can't puke...

I have not seen so much barium on the ...floor, in a kid's hair, all over their face, down their neck, soaking a gown since W's nerve shattering one aged 18 months. The older two were fine aged 5 and 6ish so I assumed T would be too. I guess he's had more medical intervention than the other two.

So they put some barium down his tube and checked out the fundoplication that way. The wrap is definitely intact. Absolutely no sign of reflux whatsoever despite screaming fit to burst so if there was any chance of reflux he would have done it.
So we have half the results - and it's the half I was confident about. You could have knocked me over with a feather if they'd found the wrap had undone or that he was refluxing again.

However all his symptoms are upper oesophgeal and so getting him to drink some barium was essential and that's when he really lost the plot - spitting it out even when they were holding his nose to make him swallow.
They only need about 5 good swallows but could we get it? No way!

So we waited for him to calm, got nowhere, and then discussed possibilities.
The radiographer said that either - we get Mr B to scope him - which he has said he doesn't want to do (although I can see that coming as the next step anyway), we come back in 3-4 weeks, or they put down an ng tube and get the barium down that way.

T would have TOTALLY freaked and been horribly traumatised if we had to ng tube him - anything in his nose sends him off the deep end - it obviously brings back memories of his ng feeds as a baby. Honestly I'm not sure I could keep it together watching them do it either as having to put the tube down him at home was one of the worst things I have EVER had to do to my kids and something I actually still have nightmares about periodically.

I explained about how he's really struggling to eat, lost weight, doing 10 hours of feeds overnight and that I really didn't feel he could wait another month and then 2 weeks beyond that to see Mr B and then waiting to fix whatever.

So she checked it out and found she has a slot next Friday at 9am when we can give it another go - and results will be back in time for our 6 Sept appt. We have agreed that if he won't drink next time then we will have to do the ng tube option.

And so we returned the following Friday and it went like this -

Got there, all fine and dandy, even hopped on the table fine - then they produced the barium and the screaming started again.
Bright red face, screaming, shaking with fear etc - and nothing drunk - spitting it out left right and centre.

So then it was all on. She gave us 3 choices - get everyone involved to hold him down to put the ng tube down - not fun at all and unlikely to work, wrap him in a big sheet firmly, hold him down and try to get it down him - again problematic esp as they know from last week that he's actually very strong. Or use a contraption she'd designed to pin him down while they put the tube down, add the barium and take the pics. She warned us it looked like a torture instrument but assured us that it would be certain to be quick this way and he wouldn't be able to move at all.

So you opt for the most successful option when nothing's going to be nice anyway - don't you?

She pulled out this thing - a plank of wood with 2 plastic rings - one at the head and one at the foot.
Then produced various velcro and fabric straps, a towel to pad the plank etc.

T kept screaming and clinging to me all the way through this and wouldn't calm at all despite my efforts to get him to look away or distract him. So I placed him on the plank and the fight was all on again.

They strapped his legs from the ankles to almost top of his thighs to the plank - he kept pulling it off in the fight so they wound up tying knots in the velcro and in the end his bottom half looked like a mummy. They then got more velcro straps and tied his arms above his head to the ring around his head. Again they had to knot it really firmly as he kept wriggling loose. He's got nasty red marks on his arms from where the ring was digging into his arms. It still took 3 people to hold him down despite this.
She shovelled the ng down - he was screaming all the time - and sort of gurgling and choking as she put it down.

He continued to scream all the time she put the barium down and took the pictures - struggling, shuddering and fighting all the way.

She says they got a few good pictures - and there appears to be nothing wrong.

So in effect we did this to T for nothing.

We still have no answers - no blockage, wrap in the right place and functioning etc.

I'm devastated needless to say.
It doesn't explain a sodding thing and why the kid's in pain, makes glooping noises, can't eat much and says food gets stuck on the way down.

I'm hoping that, since they had to put the ng down - and it appeared a fair way down his chest (being able to see the ribs helps) that maybe they missed a blockage higher up - he complains of pain higher in his chest. Maybe if it's only a very slight blockage - which explains the lack of regurgitation, that all the screaming forced things past? The ng was very very thin - looked like the gauge they used on him when he was 3 months old.

Maybe it is an allergic oesophagitis thing - in which case a scope and biopsy again will tell us that.
I'm sure a scope would give more detailed info - Mr B can look at the tissues, see colour, health, any changes, see in much more detail than simply shadows on a screen with a child screaming his lungs out. Biopsies may give more info too.

So now we have to persuade Mr B into it and further investigations. SOMETHING is not RIGHT.
He looked sore yesterday and I asked if he was okay - he said he was sore but it was okay - it was ordinary sore not really sore.
He can't and shouldn't have to live with that.
He has to be able to eat.

If I have to accept that oral feeding is for fun only and he is going to be permanently tube dependent I can and will but NOT until after every possibility, however remote has been checked first. This kid WANTS to eat but it hurts and we have to find out why.

Since then I've had an informal conversation with the surgeon, we ran into each other, and he has said that if there was nothing obvious on the barium pictures then he would scope T. He did say that they would get to the bottom of the problem for us.

We see the surgeon on the 6th so hopefully I'll have a date for the scope to report back then.

In the meantime I have a T who, rather than being a train full of steam, keeps running out of puff. He rests regularly throughout the day and today was complaining of enough pain that he wanted pain relief - as well as to go and see Mr B right now so he could stop him hurting.
The newest development is that he was retching and saying he felt like being sick this morning - whether it was pain related or something gastro-intestinal I don't know.

And so we get sucked back down into the medical quagmire which seems to swirl round us, sometimes loosening it's grip but never letting us escape completely.